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		<title>By: Sayz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art -  you&#039;re not limited by the surrounding and environment, and not some kinds of requirement and defined goal. And it doesn&#039;t care if the audience understand or not.
Design - structured and change depends on the audience, more generalized and like it said... more problem solving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art &#8211;  you&#8217;re not limited by the surrounding and environment, and not some kinds of requirement and defined goal. And it doesn&#8217;t care if the audience understand or not.<br />
Design &#8211; structured and change depends on the audience, more generalized and like it said&#8230; more problem solving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you - I do think that they overlap.

But I also look at it like this: Design (to me) is the structure and use of what the ART is created for. Yes, you&#039;re creating art when you create a website/flyer/biz-card/ect but I consider it a &quot;design&quot; when you&#039;re studying the intent of it. Art is more free of limits and guidelines where a great Design will reflect all of the information in proper form.

Just my two pennies :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you &#8211; I do think that they overlap.</p>
<p>But I also look at it like this: Design (to me) is the structure and use of what the ART is created for. Yes, you&#8217;re creating art when you create a website/flyer/biz-card/ect but I consider it a &#8220;design&#8221; when you&#8217;re studying the intent of it. Art is more free of limits and guidelines where a great Design will reflect all of the information in proper form.</p>
<p>Just my two pennies <img src='http://www.nikibrown.com/designoblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;design&quot; is more of problem-solving, and the problem will always be different... and I&#039;m trying to think in a broader sense then just visual art/design. I think that design is always a part of art, even when you go all Dada and decide to intentionally not be designed... it&#039;s a design decision. 

&quot;Art&quot; is a little harder for me to put a finger on, because there can be art in everything, on the micro and macro of anything human-created... I think you can have a big evil-corp media campaign, and the whole thing might not be &quot;art&quot;, but parts may be &quot;art&quot;... Are there design pieces that aren&#039;t &quot;art&quot;? Is it safe to say that the Photoshop UI is art? Or MS Word? It has been &quot;designed&quot;, surely... If it isn&#039;t art as a whole... are the icons &quot;art&quot;? What if I took the paint bucket icon and did a pop-art color arrangement ala Warhol&#039;s Monroe? Is it then &quot;Art&quot;? 

I know one thing... being an &quot;artist&quot; is not necessary to be a inspiring &quot;designer&quot;, but it can help in some disciplines... but if yourself an &quot;artist&quot;, but can&#039;t separate &quot;art&quot; and &quot;design&quot; you will surely fail in any client-based professional career, because you are paid to solve their problem, not your own... if you create &quot;art&quot; in that process then that is great, as long as it solves their problem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;design&#8221; is more of problem-solving, and the problem will always be different&#8230; and I&#8217;m trying to think in a broader sense then just visual art/design. I think that design is always a part of art, even when you go all Dada and decide to intentionally not be designed&#8230; it&#8217;s a design decision. </p>
<p>&#8220;Art&#8221; is a little harder for me to put a finger on, because there can be art in everything, on the micro and macro of anything human-created&#8230; I think you can have a big evil-corp media campaign, and the whole thing might not be &#8220;art&#8221;, but parts may be &#8220;art&#8221;&#8230; Are there design pieces that aren&#8217;t &#8220;art&#8221;? Is it safe to say that the Photoshop UI is art? Or MS Word? It has been &#8220;designed&#8221;, surely&#8230; If it isn&#8217;t art as a whole&#8230; are the icons &#8220;art&#8221;? What if I took the paint bucket icon and did a pop-art color arrangement ala Warhol&#8217;s Monroe? Is it then &#8220;Art&#8221;? </p>
<p>I know one thing&#8230; being an &#8220;artist&#8221; is not necessary to be a inspiring &#8220;designer&#8221;, but it can help in some disciplines&#8230; but if yourself an &#8220;artist&#8221;, but can&#8217;t separate &#8220;art&#8221; and &#8220;design&#8221; you will surely fail in any client-based professional career, because you are paid to solve their problem, not your own&#8230; if you create &#8220;art&#8221; in that process then that is great, as long as it solves their problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura-Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura-Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool to hear your voice, Niki. 

My first thought is that the difference is the motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool to hear your voice, Niki. </p>
<p>My first thought is that the difference is the motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Onorato</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Onorato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 04:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most creative works are a blend of art and design -- there is art in the way something is designed (Apple&#039;s iPod packaging, f&#039;rinstance) and there is design in art (such as in Threadless tshirts).  

However, there is also &#039;pure art&#039; and &#039;pure design.&#039;  The former is typified by fine art; these are things that have little function other than to beautify a place.  Most sculpture falls here, as well as most 2-d art such as oils or watercolors.

An example of pure design might be a text-only classified newspaper ad for which only one or two fonts can be used.  There is certainly art in typography and such things, but these happen only when the options are opened up somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most creative works are a blend of art and design &#8212; there is art in the way something is designed (Apple&#8217;s iPod packaging, f&#8217;rinstance) and there is design in art (such as in Threadless tshirts).  </p>
<p>However, there is also &#8216;pure art&#8217; and &#8216;pure design.&#8217;  The former is typified by fine art; these are things that have little function other than to beautify a place.  Most sculpture falls here, as well as most 2-d art such as oils or watercolors.</p>
<p>An example of pure design might be a text-only classified newspaper ad for which only one or two fonts can be used.  There is certainly art in typography and such things, but these happen only when the options are opened up somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Question of the Week #3 Art &#38; Design : Design Newz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question of the Week #3 Art &#38; Design : Design Newz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt Wondra</title>
		<link>http://www.nikibrown.com/designoblog/2009/05/08/question-of-the-week-3-art-design/comment-page-1/#comment-4461</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wondra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a first-year design student this is a question I&#039;ve been thinking about a lot. It seems impossible to set up simple guidelines that feel right. The more I consider distinguishing art and design, the less valuable I find that to be. It&#039;s an interesting thought experiment, but inevitably leads us to realize more how inseparable the two are.

That said, here are some of my thoughts:



Design always has a specific message in mind for a specific audience. Its goal is to speak that message with 100% accuracy.

Art has a message but the audience isn&#039;t always clear. Expressivity is held superior to accurate communication.



Design understands the way its audience thinks and uses that knowledge to make the communication clear. 

Art enjoys the range of interpretation it gets from people with different worldviews.



Design is bought because it speaks to the masses.

Art is bought because it speaks to one.



Design can objectively succeed or fail.

Art decides itself whether it has succeeded.



In the end, some things are pretty cut-and-dried. An annual report is design. An abstract painting is art. It&#039;s those in-between places that get blurry.

In my opinion: let&#039;s leave it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a first-year design student this is a question I&#8217;ve been thinking about a lot. It seems impossible to set up simple guidelines that feel right. The more I consider distinguishing art and design, the less valuable I find that to be. It&#8217;s an interesting thought experiment, but inevitably leads us to realize more how inseparable the two are.</p>
<p>That said, here are some of my thoughts:</p>
<p>Design always has a specific message in mind for a specific audience. Its goal is to speak that message with 100% accuracy.</p>
<p>Art has a message but the audience isn&#8217;t always clear. Expressivity is held superior to accurate communication.</p>
<p>Design understands the way its audience thinks and uses that knowledge to make the communication clear. </p>
<p>Art enjoys the range of interpretation it gets from people with different worldviews.</p>
<p>Design is bought because it speaks to the masses.</p>
<p>Art is bought because it speaks to one.</p>
<p>Design can objectively succeed or fail.</p>
<p>Art decides itself whether it has succeeded.</p>
<p>In the end, some things are pretty cut-and-dried. An annual report is design. An abstract painting is art. It&#8217;s those in-between places that get blurry.</p>
<p>In my opinion: let&#8217;s leave it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamal Ahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamal Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Interview with Simon Waterfall in Net magazine I read a while back comes to mind. Quote “We’re not artists, we’re designers. We work for other people and we have to understand the brands and the constraints” 

It sort of hits the nail on the head, Artist have no restrictions &amp; work for no one, designers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Interview with Simon Waterfall in Net magazine I read a while back comes to mind. Quote “We’re not artists, we’re designers. We work for other people and we have to understand the brands and the constraints” </p>
<p>It sort of hits the nail on the head, Artist have no restrictions &amp; work for no one, designers do.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad mentioned that Art is about expression and Design is about function, but this is where I see it overlapping. Design &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; about function, but it wouldn&#039;t be &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; design without expression.  And Art can have its functions as well; art making statements needs to have clear meaning or else it loses what it was going for.  It needs to have function.

The difference is that Design is generally used for commerce, advertising, or it&#039;s all about showing off something else (content).  Art is all about itself in that way.  Can Design be Art?  Yes.  Can Art be Design?  Maybe.

To play off what Steph said, I agree.  You call something art and it is.  But does that work for design?  Not as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad mentioned that Art is about expression and Design is about function, but this is where I see it overlapping. Design <i>is</i> about function, but it wouldn&#8217;t be <i>good</i> design without expression.  And Art can have its functions as well; art making statements needs to have clear meaning or else it loses what it was going for.  It needs to have function.</p>
<p>The difference is that Design is generally used for commerce, advertising, or it&#8217;s all about showing off something else (content).  Art is all about itself in that way.  Can Design be Art?  Yes.  Can Art be Design?  Maybe.</p>
<p>To play off what Steph said, I agree.  You call something art and it is.  But does that work for design?  Not as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.nikibrown.com/designoblog/2009/05/08/question-of-the-week-3-art-design/comment-page-1/#comment-4454</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art communicates, design narrates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art communicates, design narrates</p>
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